Thursday, July 30, 2009

The Planet Hunters - Extreme Life - Eating Rocks - The debate

eagle averro/true masked wabbit

Eagle averro of BPE has his valid arguments when it comes to aquifers. Our planet is known to be the blue planet or the water planet. Everything including our body, the main ingredient is water.
But that doesn’t mean that micro organism cannot get its nutrients and energy through something other than what could seep down through the earth to the extremophiles that live deep in the caves of Mexico. Bacteria or micro organism of let’s say any vegetable or and decaying meat having been absorbed by the earth (since any source of once a living thing including humans will turn to soup (liquid) once the decay process has advanced. The bacteria in that liquid can then be very well a source of nutrients for other microbial organism deep down into the earth.
But that’s not what we’re talking about when we speak of rock eaters or micro organism that eat iron and this is their only supply of nutrients and energy and leave well enough alone the micro organism of a once living thing that seeps down into the earth. (true masked wabbit)

Let’s examine eagle averro’s theory. (Says eagle averro)
1.) No matter HOW deep we go.... sometimes in the Past water from the SURFACE has SEEPED to that location carrying with it " Nutrients" that Organisms can feed on...that is a FACT.2.) there is NO place on THIS planet that water has not made its presence.
3.) all geological studies show that even the MOUNTAIN tops at some stage were UNDER Oceans of water..
4.) In the deepest mines and core drill we have found fossils of marine organisms,,, that is a fact.

A point well made by eagle averro and taken into consideration. But, we must also take into consideration the recent findings in the past 20 – 30 years that some micro organism can in fact live in extreme conditions. Such as thriving well in –0 PH or above +7 PH and yet is harmful to other organisms.
Sulphuric acid drips from the walls and deadly levels of hydrogen sulphide and carbon monoxide belch from the numerous springs in this cave. Amidst these hostile conditions, bacteria are alive and well at ph 0.5, and a rich invertebrate fauna thrives in Cueva de Villa Luz.
Lechuguilla Cave corrosion residues: a good home for microbes or the result of eating rock? Lechguilla, Spider, and Jewel Caves sport extensive deposits of what cavers call ``gorilla shit.'' Lava tubes and some limestone caves contain wonderful displays of actinomycetes, filamentous bacteria that may cover entire walls of caves, giving the appearance of a ``silvered'' surface. Also bacteria thriving well in 360oF

(see the studies of Lynn Rothschild), Rothschild collects samples from these boiling obnoxious pools at Yellowstone national park in search of micro organisms. Some of the most resilient life forms on earth. She has discovered that life can flourish at temperatures thirty degrees above boiling point. With no oxygen, high salinity and with extreme acidity.

Or hydrogen sulfide gas (Dianne Northrup); Says Dr Northrup;” The ones in Lechuguilla are mainly but not totally outside the surface world. There's obviously no sunlight, and some of these organisms are 1,000 feet or more below the surface. But they get some indirect products from sunshine. Water seeps down through that 1,000 feet of rock and brings a little organic carbon from the surface. Cueva de Villa Luz has some skylights and a stream running through it, so the surface contributes to the food base in that way. Yet some of the organisms that we study, like the sulfur bacteria in Cueva de Villa Luz, derive their energy from inorganic substances such as hydrogen sulfide, the gas that smells like rotten eggs. So in that respect they are independent of the sun."

I also would like to repeat a quote from Lynn Rothschild when she said;“We have to always bear in mind when life arose on earth it was a hellish place. The early earth was in a period that we call the Hades (meaning hellish). It was a time with no oxygen in the atmosphere, temperatures may have been radically different from today. It would be something out of science fiction.”

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